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The recruiters also eventually suggested that as new recruits we should “take advantage” of WFG’s products, confirming our suspicion that senior WFG leaders may try to sell insurance policies to new WFG recruits.", "attrs": null, "subkind": "paragraph", "toolName": null, "toolSlug": null, "confidence": null, "componentId": "692e4fd8-d9d3-494d-9ee5-f024d948c7ac", "frameworkName": null, "frameworkSlug": null }, { "bbox": { "h": 0.08, "w": 0.48, "x": 0.51, "y": 0.84 }, "kind": "quote", "text": "This is why we of course not only offer our products, but our biggest product is this business opportunity here. And of course, if you take advantage of the business opportunity, the first thing you want to do is put the mask on yourself. 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I say it is called an index universal life insurance policy. It is cash value on steroids.", "attrs": null, "subkind": "testimonial", "toolName": null, "toolSlug": null, "confidence": null, "componentId": "89e63d1b-e9cb-4f15-9f0b-a83cbde1c50a", "frameworkName": null, "frameworkSlug": null }, { "bbox": { "h": 0.08, "w": 0.48, "x": 0.51, "y": 0.75 }, "kind": "quote", "text": "These strategies, my friend, are not attached to the market. They mirror the market through trillions of dollars spent in bonds. So it's totally different type of investing. That's why it can yield those types of rates of return.", "attrs": null, "subkind": "testimonial", "toolName": null, "toolSlug": null, "confidence": null, "componentId": "90c4bc7f-36f1-41af-a2d7-b61e799e8979", "frameworkName": null, "frameworkSlug": null }, { "bbox": { "h": 0.08, "w": 0.48, "x": 0.51, "y": 0.4 }, "kind": "quote", "text": "I-U-L remember, I told you to write down index universal life. If you can qualify for that baby, your future is brighter than the sun. You need sunglasses to see your future because it's so bright.", "attrs": null, "subkind": "testimonial", "toolName": null, "toolSlug": null, "confidence": null, "componentId": "94da1278-4292-4f2b-a531-54ea41ddf0e1", "frameworkName": null, "frameworkSlug": null }, { "bbox": { "h": 0.18, "w": 0.48, "x": 0.51, "y": 0.56 }, "kind": "quote", "text": "Well, how can I make or where can I put the money that I make so that it grows? OK. What about safety? Where can I put my money that's protecting me? Someplace where it grows and it grows safely, which means I am not subject to lose any money. People don't even believe that there are strategies in the economic part of the financial part of America, where you don't lose money or you can't lose money. Ladies and gentlemen, there is. There is. I could not tell you this in all fidelity with the license, and keep my keep my license. If I wasn't telling you the truth.", "attrs": null, "subkind": "testimonial", "toolName": null, "toolSlug": null, "confidence": null, "componentId": "bc98db26-6e12-4c72-a423-7a0c931e2dd0", "frameworkName": null, "frameworkSlug": null }, { "bbox": { "h": 0.15, "w": 0.48, "x": 0.02, "y": 0.4 }, "kind": "quote", "text": "So let's move over to permanent coverage. You know, this is the latest greatest. It works as an investment on steroids. You get up to 13, 14, sometimes 20, 25, 30% interest. You can never get that in the bank. It's gonna never, ever, ever lose money, my friend. Never in your life. And you will never ever pay taxes. So you're going to get all of the highs of the highs.", "attrs": null, "subkind": "testimonial", "toolName": null, "toolSlug": null, "confidence": null, "componentId": "d09456e2-db4c-49ba-bc3f-bcbd3f35402a", "frameworkName": null, "frameworkSlug": null }, { "bbox": { "h": 0.08, "w": 0.48, "x": 0.51, "y": 0.31 }, "kind": "quote", "text": "Yeah, there are some downturns in the economy, but is your money taking a downturn? 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So there are some things that a flip phone can't do that a smartphone can do. Very same thing with permanent life insurance. So whole life will remind you of a flip phone or a beeper. It's a permanent life insurance policy, but it only grows a small value of life insurance, so it is better than term but is it really the latest, greatest thing that's out here? No.", "attrs": null, "subkind": "testimonial", "toolName": null, "toolSlug": null, "confidence": null, "componentId": "f87b760e-8f79-448e-8973-8e8af53845cf", "frameworkName": null, "frameworkSlug": null }, { "bbox": null, "kind": "quote", "text": "It is called an index universal life insurance policy. It is cash value on steroids. — WFG Recruiter; You can never get that in the bank. It's gonna never, ever, ever lose money, my friend. Never in your life. And you will never ever pay taxes. — WFG Recruiter; I-U-L remember, I told you to write down index universal life. 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